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5.9L 12V Bombs (Aftermarket) Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with P7100 Injection Pumps Related to Performance and Longevity

i beilve its so much pressure in the cyl that it blows right by the piston rings. but i could be wrong too i got my info second hand a long time ago from an old engine builder.... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 10-07-2009, 07:41 PM
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i beilve its so much pressure in the cyl that it blows right by the piston rings. but i could be wrong too i got my info second hand a long time ago from an old engine builder.

jaybuller's Sig:1997 dodge 2500, excab 5 speed, 4x4, 95,000 miles. valair single 13" clutch. S&B intake and 4" exaust. timing at 15.5*, KDP Killed, #100 plate 3/4 F.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:11 PM
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washing out sounds like too much fuel and you ruin your rings....just a shot in the dark though

YOUNG GUNS's Sig:1994 2500 4x4 dodge cummins 12 valve.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 12valvetater View Post
well im 19 and i rebuilt my engine in my garage
x2 20 years old and rebuilt my engine in my shop last winter, 4k worth of crap

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Originally Posted by YOUNG GUNS View Post
washing out sounds like too much fuel and you ruin your rings....just a shot in the dark though
yes washing out the cylanders has to do with to much fuel that it just forces it past the rings

94cummins12v's Sig:91 f350 crew cab 12v cummins,nv4500 ,E/F shift handle w 2low and pacbreak switch, 4" straight pipe Dual 5" bullhauler stacks, Industrial injection 370 injectors and super phat shaft 62/71/14, #100 fuel plate, 4k GSK, ARP studs,60lb valve springs,custom 191 dv's, timing 16.5*,13" ceramic valair 6sp clutch, AFE intake, custom water/meth, custom air bags, 7 guages.

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Old 10-13-2009, 09:34 PM
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yes washing out the cylanders has to do with to much fuel that it just forces it past the rings
with my mods can i wash em out?
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:15 PM
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i havent heard of wash out problems (i'm sure there's more) other than extensive low rpm idling, lugging, extended crank time and REDICULOUS fueling... something a sled puller would be modded for. washout is as simple as it sounds... the diesl fuel dilutes the oil film on the cylinder walls increasing friction and wear. actually i've read in principle; the design of a piston ring will increase how well it seals through pressure differential; low crank case pressure and high chamber pressure results in a better seal.

tower_ofpower's Sig:One thing i learned in college: DON'T!!! stick your fingers where you wouldn't stick Mr. Happy 89' W250, full fuel 1 1/2 turns, smoke screw needs adjustment, M&H M3 fuel pin and timing spacer, 366 spring, air dog 150,3" DP to 4" DP back bully dog exhaust with the front baffle cut out. Soon to be:transmission upgade, turbo and manifold swap, and injectors.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FastCR View Post
o-rings are run on street trucks all the time. the only thing i've seen without O rings was in one of the magazines a guy got the head and block decked so perfectly he just ran studs and a gasket. I don't remember where I saw it and it was a race truck with god knows how much money into the motor.
i thinjk i read about that i think it was keating machine who built that motor

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Old 11-21-2009, 06:38 PM
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i blew a head gasket and now have studs i wish i would have had the extra money at the time of repairs to have it o ringed its the only way to go


and no that i'm trying to get twins water/meth and nitris

i really hate thinking about the decision and what i have to do over again and truck down time head gasket etc.....

live and learn save up and do it right the first time

or do what i do learn from mistakes , have a bunch of funn, and waste more money because i didnt have enough in the first place

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Old 11-22-2009, 12:57 PM
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yup wish I could do that with my transmission o well better saving up next time around

440ctd's Sig:96 2500 cummins 5.9L 12 valve jasper auto trans. ,guages: pyro, boost ,trans ... studed and ringed head, super HX40 turbo, stock injectors, exhaust: 4in downpipe 5in to muffler 6in tail end, silencer ring taken out.
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Old 11-22-2009, 02:28 PM
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Washing a cylinder is when you have a injector issue and the cylinder is filled with more fuel than it can burn,thus it ends up being pushed down the cylinder walls past the rings and into the crankcase.It will cause premature failure of your rings and will cause them to score the walls also.Most times on a 12v its done because a injector tip has been broken off or blew off and the sparay pattern gets compromised severly.

When you have a coolant issue in the cylinders and it either will not start or while its running it fills the cylinder and bends a connecting rod thats considered "hydraulicing" a cylinder.

Either one is bad and if they happen they will lead to a rebuild.

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Old 11-22-2009, 10:52 PM
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so if you are building more that 35 psi of boost and do not have head studs you are on borrowed time with you motor and how would you be able to tell if you are washing the cyclinder and are o ringed and fire ring head gaskets the same?

BD Cummins's Sig:I have a 1994 dodge cummins, 5-speed, Valair DD Clutch, 4x4, leveling kit, 4" exhaust, cold air intake, bd 40hp injectors, no fuel plate, gutted AFC housing, 4K govenor spring, injection pump degreed 17.5 degrees, Mickey Thompsons rims wrapped with kumo a/ts
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