just wondering what you all think about this upgrade. i understand cooler air and more of it is a good thing. not a huge power gain but maybe a little better turbo spool and lower egts as well as a small fuel gain. they are from 280 to 360 dollars. which one offers the best performance? bladerunner, cfm, or ATS? or is it a total waste of $$$$$$$$

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My understanding is that it doesnt make a huge difference on a 12 or 24V second gen. But makes a bigger difference on the third gens.

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thanks for your input on this. not sure if i will purchase this or not. i like the idea of more cooler air. but if it is not much of a gain if will spend the money on the 3000k governor spring kit instead.

the only reason i bought one is for the water/meth ports and it looks cool with all my painted components

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91 f350 crew cab 12v cummins,nv4500 ,E/F shift handle w 2low and pacbreak switch, 4" straight pipe Dual 5" bullhauler stacks, Industrial injection 370 injectors and super phat shaft 62/71/14, #100 fuel plate, 4k GSK, ARP studs,60lb valve springs,custom 191 dv's, timing 16.5*,13" ceramic valair 6sp clutch, AFE intake, custom water/meth, custom air bags, 7 guages.

so in other words there is no performance gain at all? i understand what NOS does. but is water/meth going for the same thing. not sure how that one works, so i thought i would ask. i would need new head studds if i were to go that route.

i have watre/meth for towing when i shoot 14gph in my egts drop about 200*, with that being said i have 2 nozzels and wanted them in the intake horn.

I think your better off spending your money on a good filter and intake and a 4" or 5" exhaust.

i was going to go with 4" exhaust but is was around 550 to 600 bucks turbo back. got 4 different prices all within 50 bucks. then a old boy asked me how much weight do i pull. he said the turbine muffler works like 4" it pulls the exhaust from the motor. he said if i was not pulling over 10000lb it will work fine. i did tons of research online about this product. it all was positive. so i went with it. it cost me 119 bucks. i thought a k&n filter was good. i modified the air box so the whole botton is sucking air(cut it all out) but i'am kinda new to this.