got knock... time for overhaul
#1
got knock... time for overhaul
Well heres the story, I got back from a deployment and got myself a nice 2004 Dodge Ram Cummins 2500 that has a 3" lift on 35's with an efi tune and a rhino lined paintjob and some nice goodies, i put some more money into it and traded my stock exhaust manifold and single turbo for a full twins setup and some $$ get everything put together and made a few 200-300 mile road trips around Wisconsin to gather the rest of the parts for my beast.. tubing, stack setup, toolbox, banks intercooler..... well apparently she was leaking more oil than i had noticed because upon return my my 3rd or 4th roadtrip i noticed that there was a nasty knock that would increase in speed as i hit the gas. Then she was having issues with starting, i tried running a bottle of stop knock through hoping maybe that would fix it... no such luck. Still having trouble with starting i replace the fuel filter and that helps she starts up a couple times... now she wont start at all and i still have the issue of the knock to deal with... so it looks like its time for an overhaul and some new nozzles and head studs
The ONLY local diesel shop wanted $7500 and i dont have the funds for that
so my questions are...
What are major issues i should be looking for... im guessing bad piston, rod, or bearing
What are some big hang ups guys have come across while pulling the motor(will be doing it in my garage)
i plan on using this overhaul kit
Commonrail Cummins Engine Overhaul Rebuild Kit 03-04 Dodge
im going to install these nozzles
180HP Bosch Injector nozzles for 2003-2004 cummins 24v | eBay
and im going to go with a set of ARP Head studs
is there anything that i CANT or SHOULDNT do in my garage that could be detrimental to the functionality of my engine?
any info or tips and hints would be greatly appreciated. this will be my first cummins overhaul and im hoping to get it knocked out in about 9 days because thats all the leave time the military will give me
thanks again
The ONLY local diesel shop wanted $7500 and i dont have the funds for that
so my questions are...
What are major issues i should be looking for... im guessing bad piston, rod, or bearing
What are some big hang ups guys have come across while pulling the motor(will be doing it in my garage)
i plan on using this overhaul kit
Commonrail Cummins Engine Overhaul Rebuild Kit 03-04 Dodge
im going to install these nozzles
180HP Bosch Injector nozzles for 2003-2004 cummins 24v | eBay
and im going to go with a set of ARP Head studs
is there anything that i CANT or SHOULDNT do in my garage that could be detrimental to the functionality of my engine?
any info or tips and hints would be greatly appreciated. this will be my first cummins overhaul and im hoping to get it knocked out in about 9 days because thats all the leave time the military will give me
thanks again
#4
Some more basic info would be nice. Like dmaxkiller said, Smoke? Is your oil pressure gauge working? Codes? I would get a NEW set of injectors first. Pull the head and inspect (can't hurt) and install studs while your in there. Then you have a couple parts of your to do list done if you do have bigger problems. Some things wrong here are.
1. EFI Live has not been released yet for 03-05. Kinda unlikely you have an EFI tune unless someone who is a beta tester was screwin with your truck.
2. I would stay far away from the EBAY nozzles you posted above. I'm assuming the ad is for 6 nozzles. Which would be stupid cheap. Their mfg part # is DDP dynomite diesel, Industrial injection,ATS. ???Whos nozzles are they??? Very fishy.
Best of luck to you. Hope it all works out.
1. EFI Live has not been released yet for 03-05. Kinda unlikely you have an EFI tune unless someone who is a beta tester was screwin with your truck.
2. I would stay far away from the EBAY nozzles you posted above. I'm assuming the ad is for 6 nozzles. Which would be stupid cheap. Their mfg part # is DDP dynomite diesel, Industrial injection,ATS. ???Whos nozzles are they??? Very fishy.
Best of luck to you. Hope it all works out.
#6
@ dmax killer ... there was no smoke and i did not notice a drop in oil pressure it is entirely possible it is a bad injector
@k80 i was told by the previous owner that it had the efi tune, he could have been mistaken or been given false information i will have to do some digging around and check.
and yes the Bosch 180 Nozzles were $600 for the set of 6
i am going to pull my injectors and take them to my local diesel shop and have them bench test them and obviously replace if they are bad. hopefully there isnt damage to anything else
@k80 i was told by the previous owner that it had the efi tune, he could have been mistaken or been given false information i will have to do some digging around and check.
and yes the Bosch 180 Nozzles were $600 for the set of 6
i am going to pull my injectors and take them to my local diesel shop and have them bench test them and obviously replace if they are bad. hopefully there isnt damage to anything else
#7
I would also suggest the FCA the fuel control actuator can cause knock and starting problems. It is a cheap part to try and a good part for a spare. My old truck had one that went bad and it knocked like and sounded like a top fuel dragster. I would also check the pop off on the rail if the FCA is bad. A knocking motor should show other signs low oil pressure, some smoke, codes, something. If injector(s) they can load the motor like the FCA by letting fuel drip or leak in the cylinder and if that is the case buy from a reputable shop.
Good luck
Good luck
#8
just got back to the truck today. she turns over but does not fire up. im going to check the fuel rail pressure and see if thats the issue. then tear apart the head and pull the injectors
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It is throwing codes
PO107-Manifold Absolute Pressure/ Barometric Pressure Circuit low
PO073-Ambient Air Temperature Sensor Circuit High
PO336- Crankshaft Position Sensor A Circuit Range/ Performance
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It is throwing codes
PO107-Manifold Absolute Pressure/ Barometric Pressure Circuit low
PO073-Ambient Air Temperature Sensor Circuit High
PO336- Crankshaft Position Sensor A Circuit Range/ Performance
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