Go To The Home Page About Us Join The Bombers

Vote for us on Top Diesel Sites Join our Facebook Group Follow Us On Twitter Subscribe to our RSS feed Subscribe to Our You Tube Channel Add us as your friend on Myspace Bookmark us on Delicious Bookmark us on Digg Link To Our Family Of Sites Invite Your Friends Check Out Our Blog Add Diesel Bombers To Your Network

Bomb Site Regional & Clubs Shop Bombers Classifieds Directory Casino & Board Games [0] Arcade
Go Back   Diesel Bombers > Dodge Cummins > 1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93
Forgot Password? Join Us!
Register Blogs Mark Forums Read Chat Room

1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

If you're looking into getting a fuel pin and want to see what they can do, I'm posting some good stuff to watch. M&H Inc is one of our sponsors and have a selection of profiles that allow you to tune your truck to your ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 11-29-2009, 02:59 PM
muskrat's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Status: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

   
View Member's Albums View Member's FaceBook Profile



You Tube Fuel Pin Videos

If you're looking into getting a fuel pin and want to see what they can do, I'm posting some good stuff to watch. M&H Inc is one of our sponsors and have a selection of profiles that allow you to tune your truck to your liking.
dyno run of a stock 1991 non intercooled dodge ram 250 diesel with a getrag 5 speed 3:54 gears. completly stock except 4 inch strait pipe. 73HP/140TQ at the wheels with stock fuel pin at its deepes...
dyno run of a stock 1991 non intercooled dodge ram 250 diesel with a getrag 5 speed 3:54 gears. 4 inch strait pipe. 165HP/443TQ at the wheels with M&H Inc M1 fuel pin
dyno run of a stock 1991 non intercooled dodge ram 250 diesel with a getrag 5 speed 3:54 gears. 4 inch strait pipe. 176HP/473TQ at the wheels with M&H Inc M fuel pin
dyno run of a stock 1991 non intercooled dodge ram 250 diesel with a getrag 5 speed 3:54 gears. 4 inch strait pipe. 187HP/524TQ at the wheels with M&H Inc M3 fuel pin
dyno run of a stock 1991 non intercooled dodge ram 250 diesel with a getrag 5 speed 3:54 gears. 4 inch strait pipe. 185HP/518TQ at the wheels with M&H Inc M4 fuel pin
dyno run of a stock 1991 non intercooled dodge ram 250 diesel with a getrag 5 speed 3:54 gears. 4 inch strait pipe. 182HP/510TQ at the wheels with M&H Inc M5 fuel pin

Also Here is a DennyT vid, because it too, is a great pin.


muskrat's Sig:
93 Dodge W250 CTD
Auto Tranny
Tweeked IP
366 Spring
M&H M4 Fuel Pin
H1C/60mm Wheel/14cm Exhaust Housing
4" Exhaust Out 5" Stack




Last edited by muskrat; 11-29-2009 at 03:25 PM..
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to muskrat For This Useful Post:

Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!

  #2  
Old 11-29-2009, 03:05 PM
RSWORDS's Avatar
Moderator
Status: D For Diesel, I For Input Shaft, E For Engine, S For Studs, E For EGT, L For Liftpump

   
View Member's Albums




Default

What were teh numbers from the dyno?

RSWORDS's Sig:
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-29-2009, 03:12 PM
1st genny nut's Avatar
Diesel Enthusiast
Status: check out the whip !!

   
View Member's Albums

Default

thts crazy i gotta get me one

1st genny nut's Sig:1991.5 1st genny 2 turns on the pump, 3200 rpm spring, hx35w n 12cm housing, silencer ring MIA 4" expandit exh, 4" skyjacker lift 35" mud terrains slowly making more power!!!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-29-2009, 03:15 PM
muskrat's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Status: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

   
View Member's Albums View Member's FaceBook Profile



Default

Originally Posted by RSWORDS View Post
What were teh numbers from the dyno?
Duh. I'm on it.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-29-2009, 03:19 PM
FRadisi's Avatar
Diesel Fan
Status: Can't. Stop. Modding.

   

Default

Definitely one of the first mods I do when I get one

FRadisi's Sig:1991 D350 - Intercooled, Getrag, regular cab, flatbed
Mods - BHAF, 3 turns on the smoke screw (but no smoke?)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-29-2009, 03:51 PM
muskrat's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Status: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

   
View Member's Albums View Member's FaceBook Profile



Default

I coppied the info on each run and I am confused by the numbers made by the stock pin?? must be an error.

---AutoMerged DoublePost---

Also, notice that the highest numbers made were by the M3 pin, not the M5.

Last edited by muskrat; 11-29-2009 at 03:51 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-29-2009, 03:57 PM
RSWORDS's Avatar
Moderator
Status: D For Diesel, I For Input Shaft, E For Engine, S For Studs, E For EGT, L For Liftpump

   
View Member's Albums




Default

I bet it has to do with over fueling down low.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-29-2009, 04:20 PM
muskrat's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Status: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

   
View Member's Albums View Member's FaceBook Profile



Default

Ok, so all of the M&H pins have the same profile @ the deepest point, the different pins are different because of the way they move into the deep part of the pin. A different shaped lip, so to speak. Then it seems that the M3 would probably be the best all around fuel pin because, there is less wasted fuel @ lower boost, and it just moves into full fueling in a more efficent manner.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-29-2009, 04:46 PM
RSWORDS's Avatar
Moderator
Status: D For Diesel, I For Input Shaft, E For Engine, S For Studs, E For EGT, L For Liftpump

   
View Member's Albums




Default

Yep, and that is why I will be running a M3 next year pulling.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-29-2009, 05:16 PM
DieselPerformanceGuy's Avatar
Diesel Enthusiast
Status: Ordered the Airdog 165!!

   
View Member's Albums

Default

alright so what would u guys think, should i ditch my bully dog and get the m&h pin or should i stay with the BD.

Also muskrat what was the next best pin, hp wise.

---AutoMerged DoublePost---

Never mind its the m4
sorry

DieselPerformanceGuy's Sig:1992 dodge CTD,auto,RCLB, w250, 170,500 on the odometer,5x.014's , 366 spring, pump maxed,starwheel bottomed , bully dog fuel pin, bully dog 4 inch exhaust, asa modifieds intake,auto meter boost and pyro gauges,isspro 4k tach,ATS 3 peice manifold,3'' homemade coolertubz,and a new 62/65/12 s300 turbo,: next to have,AirDog II 165 fuel pump.
http://s804.photobucket.com/albums/y.../Truck%20pics/

Last edited by DieselPerformanceGuy; 11-29-2009 at 05:16 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-29-2009, 05:39 PM
muskrat's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Status: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

   
View Member's Albums View Member's FaceBook Profile



Default

Your BD pin is essentialy the same as the M5 pin. So, looking at all those videos as a test - a mostly stock truck, no variables, the same dyno, just a swap of fuel pins, it shows that the M3 pin makes the most power, period. As the profile gets more agressive, the less efficient it becomes, because the rack is basicly just dropping into the fullest fueling point(the deepest part of the pin), dumping fuel in that won't burn (because of low boost), rather than moving in a more efficient path. Utilizing more burnt fuel versus sending unburnt fuel out the pipes. Thats how I'm seeing it.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to muskrat For This Useful Post:
  #12  
Old 11-29-2009, 06:45 PM
tower_ofpower's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Status: makin the 89 a western hauler... no real reason

   

Default

stock numbers have gotta be off... i thought these old girls came with roughly 185 horse to start with?

tower_ofpower's Sig:One thing i learned in college: DON'T!!! stick your fingers where you wouldn't stick Mr. Happy 89' W250, full fuel 1 1/2 turns, smoke screw needs adjustment, M&H M3 fuel pin and timing spacer, 366 spring, air dog 150,3" DP to 4" DP back bully dog exhaust with the front baffle cut out. Soon to be:transmission upgade, turbo and manifold swap, and injectors.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-29-2009, 06:49 PM
muskrat's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Status: Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

   
View Member's Albums View Member's FaceBook Profile



Default

Originally Posted by tower_ofpower View Post
stock numbers have gotta be off... i thought these old girls came with roughly 185 horse to start with?
Yep, it has to be a misprint. They should be around 160 hp. My 85 4runner has more than hp than what the first vid shows
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-29-2009, 06:54 PM
Richie O's Avatar
Diesel Enthusiast
Status: a jackass

   

Default

A stock cooled truck with a rag should be upper 140's lower 150's. A stock non cooled truck with a rag should be maybe 5 hp above that.

Richie O's Sig:89 Dodge W250, auto, 3.07 factory l/s, 4 inch stans exhaust, S300G 57/64/14, powerstroke intercooler 297 HP. 93 W250 extended cab, rag, 4.10 l/s , 6x16's, 60mm GDS H1C with 16 cm exhaust, work in progress.301 HP
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-29-2009, 07:31 PM
seandonato73's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Status: got my parts now i just gotta clear out my shop so i can put my AD II in

   
View Member's FaceBook Profile


Default

yeah a little confused of the first dyno run hp and tq, i know my truck was gutless stock,but cummins is normally close to the hp they say the engine is rated at, i think my buddies 4 banger jeep has more then 78hp

seandonato73's Sig:1990 Dodge W250, custom intercooler, 4" turbo back exhaust,DDRP fass pump, 3200rpm gov spring, injection pump maxed out, 80hp DDP injectors, upgraded intake housing and compressor wheel,auto meter pyro,boost, fuel pres,and oilpres guages M&H fuel pin set M4 installed, advanced pump 3/16"
just arrived:Air dog II fuel pump waiten on the reast of the kit, that air dog didn't send
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


 
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:39 PM.

Copyright And Legal Notice Visit Our Store

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Diesel Bombers ® - All Content Protected Under Intellectual Property Rights Law of Registered Trademarks
Reg. No. 3,494,401 Cls. 100, 101 & 104 Under Int. Cl. 38
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK WE HOLD NO LIABILITY FOR ANY CONTENT RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT

vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245