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Guys, any diagrams or helpful info on why my drivers side rear dually axle on my 94 Dodge came out while driving tonight? Had to get a tow and am fearing the guts are toast. Is this ..common.. ?... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 03-12-2010, 12:20 AM
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Guys, any diagrams or helpful info on why my drivers side rear dually axle on my 94 Dodge came out while driving tonight? Had to get a tow and am fearing the guts are toast. Is this ..common.. ?

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Old 03-12-2010, 12:51 AM
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the whole axle shaft slid out?

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Old 03-12-2010, 01:01 AM
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Yes, its kinda unbelievable to me that it did, but I can see the axle shaft coming out the axle tube, I can see my brake drum pads, and it looks like both tires are outside my fender. What has happened here?
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Old 03-12-2010, 01:42 AM
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it should be a full floating axle. it should be held on by 8 bolts and thats it. maybe all your bolts somehow backed out and it slid out. thats the only theory i can think of

or if you toasted some bearings and the backlash nuts backed all the way off and everything went haywire you could have the whole hub fall off. but all of the coming off including the retaining clips is like next to impossible

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Old 03-12-2010, 01:44 AM
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wow. i never heard of that before.... that really sucks... that is

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Old 03-12-2010, 07:47 AM
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So the axle slid out or the axle and the drum together.

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Old 03-12-2010, 08:09 AM
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Yes, When the wrecker hoisted the back end up both drivers side tires were outside of fender, still bolted to the hub/drum assembly with the axle shaft connected. What keeps the hub from coming off? THe wrecker driver tried to tell me that the only thing keeping this from happening is a dowel retaining system inside the pumpkin, but that seems way to weak to be the only thing keeping my wheels from coming off. Just to start looking, anyone in Cincinnati area have dually rear end?
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Old 03-12-2010, 10:13 AM
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Bearing / nut failure? I would think the bearing let go.

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nut backed off proabbly due to bearing failure.

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I just saw this happen to a 3/4 ton about a month ago. And yeah whatever retains the shaft in the pumpkin failed.

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Old 03-12-2010, 12:28 PM
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iirc, nothing holds the shaft in on the pumpkin side. there should be two wheel bearings, either 1 or two retaining nuts, and two c clips that hold everything together in a hub assembly. for all that to go bad to the extent that it did is almost impossible, but apparently it happens
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Old 03-12-2010, 05:08 PM
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I'm tearing into it tonight to find the answer, but Im assuming the C clip talked about must somehow be the answer as the axle came out of the shaft. Having not had this apart before I cant visualize what it looks like on the hub assembly but there must be a "spindle" that the axle travels through and that is the nut that backed off? Still dont get it. WIll let you all know.
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hope your spindle is ok. if not some welding shops can replace it but its not cheap. the hub assy is held on by a single nut that has nylon on the outer 1/4 of the nut. then a wedged shaped think called a keeper is aligned with the key way on the spindle and pounded into the nylon to keep the nut from moving. i hope everything is ok and the nut just backed off.

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there are no C clips on a full floating rear axle.
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Originally Posted by co84rc View Post
there are no C clips on a full floating rear axle.
i didnt mean c clip, i meant snap ring. my rear hubs use a snap ring on each side
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