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got a question my truck has all the stuff in my sig. but i have a bad clutch and the timing is still at stock but the thing im tryin to figure out is why it doesnt smoke black at all even when i put ... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 12-17-2009, 04:20 PM
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got a question my truck has all the stuff in my sig. but i have a bad clutch and the timing is still at stock but the thing im tryin to figure out is why it doesnt smoke black at all even when i put it to the floor i get nothing can someone help me get some smoke its boring driving around without it

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Old 12-17-2009, 05:19 PM
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check the fuel pressure yet?

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fuel filter been changed? fuel lines leaking? how bad is the clutch slipping?

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move your fuel plate full forward as well as the afc.crank the starwheel forward. but only if you have gauges. that will get her to smoke!!!!! p.s. this will destroy your clutch!!!!

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Old 12-17-2009, 07:02 PM
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with a 10plate in stock location he should still be seeing smoke.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:22 PM
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AFC is to tight, needs to loosened all the way forward.

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Old 12-17-2009, 11:44 PM
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i had the plate all the way forward and the AFC and i still didnt have any smoke
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Old 12-18-2009, 02:05 AM
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Send your turbo to me, I will send you an HX-35 and youll have lots of smoke.

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Old 12-18-2009, 03:32 AM
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:57 AM
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Unburned fuel is smoke, so concentrate on that. Dirty injectors, dirty filters,lift pump weak. Put a fuel gauge to it, that thing should be rollin some coal.

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Old 12-18-2009, 07:31 AM
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I don't see the problem.....you smoked your clutch and it seems the truck is making power. You have an aftermarket turbo that will move more air and some bigger junk injectors....why the fascination with smoke? I guess you like wasting fuel. if the FP is good, the filter is clean, the sediment bolw screen is clean and your timing is right then you have a well tuned truck and should be happy.

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Old 12-18-2009, 10:21 AM
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Duster 318 said--
I don't see the problem.....you smoked your clutch and it seems the truck is making power. You have an aftermarket turbo that will move more air and some bigger junk injectors....why the fascination with smoke? I guess you like wasting fuel. if the FP is good, the filter is clean, the sediment bolw screen is clean and your timing is right then you have a well tuned truck and should be happy.



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Old 12-18-2009, 10:48 AM
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:03 AM
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He already has 181s.

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Old 12-18-2009, 11:06 AM
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Well a set of .024's or .022 would flow more fuel and probably be better with those injectors....but they are just warmed over 370's. He'd be better off spending the cash on a set of SDX 5x14's or 5x12's and upgrading the clutch. Have you done all the AFC tuning like swapping out the washers and set the star wheel for the boost pressure and slid the housing forward? What about the smoke screw on the AFC? I can fog out the city if I set my truck to but i don't cause it's stupid and cost money for wasted fuel that could be spent to make it faster.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dusterb318 View Post
Well a set of .024's or .022 would flow more fuel and probably be better with those injectors....but they are just warmed over 370's. He'd be better off spending the cash on a set of SDX 5x14's or 5x12's and upgrading the clutch. Have you done all the AFC tuning like swapping out the washers and set the star wheel for the boost pressure and slid the housing forward? What about the smoke screw on the AFC? I can fog out the city if I set my truck to but i don't cause it's stupid and cost money for wasted fuel that could be spent to make it faster.
save the smoke for the dyno/track/seld and keep it off the streets

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