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12 Valve 2nd Gen Dodge Cummins 94-98 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with P7100 Injection Pumps

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  #16  
Old 10-18-2009, 12:59 PM
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Old 10-18-2009, 01:14 PM
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i would love to do the swap my stock tranny has almost 300,000 and has never had a wrench on it other than filter and fluid changes dont think its gonna hold up much longer
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:28 PM
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I'd like this info as well, since my built auto just broke yesterday.
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:18 PM
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Default Very interested in a swap as well

I would like to know where this place is in ohio.
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:17 AM
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Is it Ohio Light Truck Parts? They are in Dover. I am close to them. That is a great deal and I would consider selling my built auto and converter to do that swap.

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Old 11-13-2009, 10:38 AM
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Great Deal???????.....WTF?????...

Ok,now since no one else will ask this I will for you all as it needs to be looked at when you consider this swap......

How do you feel this is a great deal for the swap?.....

Here is the way I see it for you number crunchers with cost......
-$2500 for a USED NV4500 and the parts to do the swap.
-$1800 for a good double disc clutch of your choice.
-$ 500 for a good 1 3/8" input shaft(about double if you find a billet version)
-$ 250 for the upograded hydraulics to handle the double disc.
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-$5050 for just the parts to do the swap with zero labor cost and no incedentials.

For those who can not do the swap at home this would be a very costly expense IMO.I am not trying to tell anyone NOT to do it but am trying to show that going this route and ending up with a used transmission to me is not a good deal at all.To me for the cost your laying out to do this I would rather drop it all into a full tilt billet automatic and save all the extra hassles of the swap.IF you were to use a rebuilt NV4500 in the deal the cost you initially would lay out for parts would go up about another $1500 as the rebuilt NV4500/5600's are bringing around $2800-3500 depending where you buy them.

I will say this...
For the cost of what I have said above and have a rebuilt stick instead(total close to 7g's) you could have one stout billet automatic and a sweet daily driver to pound the ground with and only have to stomp and steer.IMO,You guys are nuts,if you would drive a stick with a double everyday and you'll understand my logic.Good Luck with your swaps.......Andy

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Old 11-13-2009, 10:43 AM
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put the 5 speed in it, they out performe and last the autos anyday and are more fun to drive

94cummins12v's Sig:91 f350 crew cab 12v cummins,nv4500 ,E/F shift handle w 2low and pacbreak switch, 4" straight pipe Dual 5" bullhauler stacks, Industrial injection 370 injectors and super phat shaft 62/71/14, #100 fuel plate, 4k GSK, ARP studs,60lb valve springs,custom 191 dv's, timing 16.5*,13" ceramic valair 6sp clutch, AFE intake, custom water/meth, custom air bags, 7 guages.
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:45 AM
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I see your point Andy and with those numbers you posted I see what you mean. It's all fun to row gears but with a DD clutch it gets old fast when daily driving.
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:59 AM
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I just did this swap. its not that bad. i did it with a motorcycle jack, and a few blocks of wood. i got the trans, transfer case, pedal assem., shifters, hydros, and drive shafts for $2100, paid $1800 for dd clutch AND new input shaft. then had trans gone through, ($450)new syncros, bearings, input shaft, etc. hardest part was getting the trans to slide into the clutch pack. love it so far! on a 12v, you do not need a new hydro assem. unless the one you get is bad!

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i debated for 3 months on whether to do this swap or get a full billet auto. lets just figure i saved approx. $3000 according to the prices i got from dtt and suncoast. with that i can get a turbo, head worked and other mods...... to me it was a better value for the money.

just my $.02

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Old 11-13-2009, 11:56 AM
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yeah im when you drie an auto the driving itself gets boring.nothing really to keep you intrested or occupied. ill never go with another auto unless im building a 7 sec drag car

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Old 11-19-2009, 08:54 PM
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jspike91, i have been looking for swap parts and was wondering were you got your parts and tranny?
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rollin'CoalCummins View Post
jspike91, i have been looking for swap parts and was wondering were you got your parts and tranny?
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:56 PM
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Thanks jspike91, im going to look into that as soon as i can.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:02 AM
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any word on where that place is at in ohio? my built auto just started to slip 1st to 2nd and im seriously considering the swap this summer any help would be greatly app.

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