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Old 01-15-2014, 10:20 PM
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My truck has 200k miles on it and my lift pump has been acting up,Should i change it or wait till it goes out?And with a lift pump going bad can this affect performance of the truck?
 
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the stock lift pump on my 98 I had issues and after the 3rd one I used one of these pumps and have not looked back works great

2 things to make sure you do put in a cheap inline fuel filter before pump it is a gear pump and after a few years the o rings might leak from diesel fuel otherwise they work great i would take out all lift pumps for these

the stock pump is like 110 gph @9-12 psi @ 1800 rpm so these are real close

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Flow-Performance-Electric-Fuel-Pump-140GPH-Universal-Fit-3-8-NPT-Ports-/330873921560?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d099f6018
 
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the stock lift pump on my 98 I had issues and after the 3rd one I used one of these pumps and have not looked back works great

2 things to make sure you do put in a cheap inline fuel filter before pump it is a gear pump and after a few years the o rings might leak from diesel fuel otherwise they work great i would take out all lift pumps for these

the stock pump is like 110 gph @9-12 psi @ 1800 rpm so these are real close

High Flow Performance Electric Fuel Pump 140GPH Universal Fit 3 8" NPT Ports | eBay
Awesome!
Easy to put on and all that fun stuff?And do i need to buy a lift pump replacement cover also?Where would i locate this pump also?
 
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What do you mean by acting up?
 
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I made my lift pump delete plate out of a 1/4 piece of steel on the dodge it was mounted on the frame rail just above brake line that goes to the wheel
 
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Clicking,hard starts,long time to start,etc.

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I made my lift pump delete plate out of a 1/4 piece of steel on the dodge it was mounted on the frame rail just above brake line that goes to the wheel
Where do i mount the lift pump?

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I made my lift pump delete plate out of a 1/4 piece of steel on the dodge it was mounted on the frame rail just above brake line that goes to the wheel
Where do i mount the lift pump?

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I made my lift pump delete plate out of a 1/4 piece of steel on the dodge it was mounted on the frame rail just above brake line that goes to the wheel
Where do i mount the lift pump?
 

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look on the frame right where the brake line goes to the front wheel there is a hole in the frame I just used a homemade bracket just get it as low as possible for sucking from the tank
 
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Just like to add my thoughts.
Most of the cheaper pumps cannot sustain the p7100 pressure needs for long, they often fail within a couple years.
If you intend to install a eletric pump I'd recommend that you look at a fass or air dog unit. I honestly feel installing a electric pump is a waste of time and money until about 500+rwhp. Above 500 is where you start to see pressure drops.
In factory applications we reinstall the cummins pump and offer a 3yr/36,000 mile warranty. I've yet to replace one a second time. When replacing the pump with the electric pump it's ideal to switch to a fixed orifice overflow valve which will keep fuel pressure stable throughout various conditions.

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Originally Posted by deck60
the stock lift pump on my 98 I had issues and after the 3rd one I used one of these pumps and have not looked back works great

2 things to make sure you do put in a cheap inline fuel filter before pump it is a gear pump and after a few years the o rings might leak from diesel fuel otherwise they work great i would take out all lift pumps for these

the stock pump is like 110 gph @9-12 psi @ 1800 rpm so these are real close

High Flow Performance Electric Fuel Pump 140GPH Universal Fit 3 8" NPT Ports | eBay
Might recheck those pressure specs.

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Originally Posted by mysterync
Just like to add my thoughts.
Most of the cheaper pumps cannot sustain the p7100 pressure needs for long, they often fail within a couple years.
If you intend to install a eletric pump I'd recommend that you look at a fass or air dog unit. I honestly feel installing a electric pump is a waste of time and money until about 500+rwhp. Above 500 is where you start to see pressure drops.
In factory applications we reinstall the cummins pump and offer a 3yr/36,000 mile warranty. I've yet to replace one a second time. When replacing the pump with the electric pump it's ideal to switch to a fixed orifice overflow valve which will keep fuel pressure stable throughout various conditions.

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Might recheck those pressure specs.

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and what are your specs i got mine from cummins when its -30 and a pump goes out that was the last straw this pump works great I rum about 14psi all the time my pump is never starved and 36000 is not much warranty that's 1 year or less of use my pump has over 100k use that's better than the stock ones i was using and better psi and it runs better too
 
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Sounds like someone gave you vp specs.

And just a note in regards to your thoughts on our warranty. We don't just sell parts, we are a full service shop. When we install the product all aspects are tested from tank restriction and cam wear to after completion fuel pressure test. That being said when i say we offer a 3yr/36k warranty it covers labor and diagnosis. The whole 9 yards. That warranty exceeds most manufacturer shops as well as indies and from my research most warranties of this nature are capped at 36k. Very few shops offer anything higher. The majority are 12mo/12k. I did see some that offered a 50k warranty but in those instances they charged extra for the warranty.

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